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Cliste experiment
Native perceptual continuation and retained memory
Registered 8 Oct 2026 · Snapshot 12 Oct 2026
The question
Improve native visual encoding and decoding through broader experience while measuring whether continued learning preserves previously stored VSA percepts.
Why this experiment?
A memory can only preserve what its sensory interface encodes. These studies separate encoder quality, decoder quality and compatibility with earlier stored vectors.
How it works
Change one component or input representation at a time and evaluate immediate reconstruction on separate images. Keep old-vector readback visible so gains on new inputs do not hide compatibility losses.
Follow this part of the investigation: Sharper perception can also change the language of memory →Implementation and comparison details
Continue the development-selected joint codec using broader photographs at native dimensions and aspect ratios. Compare ordinary joint refinement with matched continuation plus replay toward archived readback of stored VSA vectors. Separate acquisition, replay training, development selection and held-out retained memories. Measure fresh quality, old-vector readback, retrieval, exposure and resource costs; original acquisition identities and earlier lives remain intact.
What happened
Execution failed during evaluate: ValueError('isolation device must be cpu or cuda'); preserve evidence.
Results and visual artifacts
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This experiment trains an image encoder and decoder on more visual experience while checking what happens to older vector memories. “Ordinary” learns from new images only; “replay” also rehearses decoding old vectors toward their earlier decoded images. Replay targets are imperfect reconstructions, not original photographs. Seeds 401–403 are repeated training trials; seed 402 was chosen in advance for final illustrations. An optimizer update is one training step. MSE means mean squared RGB pixel error, where lower is better. Development images guide method choices; final test images measure the locked comparison. Error panels use a fixed fourfold display scale, separate from the numerical scores. Training completed, but this attempt failed when final evaluation rejected a CUDA device-name string. These figures are development evidence only; a separate recovery evaluates the same locked models. Their presence does not turn this failed execution into a completed final comparison.
The fixed development images used to track training

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Training with memory rehearsal: new-image reconstruction after 500 updates (replay-weight pilot 1)

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Training with memory rehearsal: old-memory readback after 500 updates (replay-weight pilot 1)

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Learning sharper new images while preserving old vector memories

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Training with memory rehearsal: new-image reconstruction after 500 updates (replay-weight pilot 4)

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Training with memory rehearsal: old-memory readback after 500 updates (replay-weight pilot 4)

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Training with memory rehearsal: new-image reconstruction after 500 updates (replay-weight pilot 16)

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Training with memory rehearsal: old-memory readback after 500 updates (replay-weight pilot 16)

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Training on new images only: new-image reconstruction after 1,000 updates (trial seed 401)

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Training on new images only: old-memory readback after 1,000 updates (trial seed 401)

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Training on new images only: new-image reconstruction after 2,000 updates (trial seed 401)

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Training on new images only: old-memory readback after 2,000 updates (trial seed 401)

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Training on new images only: new-image reconstruction after 3,000 updates (trial seed 401)

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Training on new images only: old-memory readback after 3,000 updates (trial seed 401)

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Training on new images only: new-image reconstruction after 4,000 updates (trial seed 401)

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Training on new images only: old-memory readback after 4,000 updates (trial seed 401)

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Training on new images only: new-image reconstruction after 5,000 updates (trial seed 401)

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Training on new images only: old-memory readback after 5,000 updates (trial seed 401)

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Training on new images only: new-image reconstruction after 6,000 updates (trial seed 401)

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Training on new images only: old-memory readback after 6,000 updates (trial seed 401)

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Training with memory rehearsal: new-image reconstruction after 1,000 updates (trial seed 401)

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Training with memory rehearsal: old-memory readback after 1,000 updates (trial seed 401)

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Training with memory rehearsal: new-image reconstruction after 2,000 updates (trial seed 401)

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Training with memory rehearsal: old-memory readback after 2,000 updates (trial seed 401)

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Training with memory rehearsal: new-image reconstruction after 3,000 updates (trial seed 401)

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Training with memory rehearsal: old-memory readback after 3,000 updates (trial seed 401)

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Training with memory rehearsal: new-image reconstruction after 4,000 updates (trial seed 401)

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Training with memory rehearsal: old-memory readback after 4,000 updates (trial seed 401)

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Training with memory rehearsal: new-image reconstruction after 5,000 updates (trial seed 401)

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Training with memory rehearsal: old-memory readback after 5,000 updates (trial seed 401)

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Training with memory rehearsal: new-image reconstruction after 6,000 updates (trial seed 401)

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Training with memory rehearsal: old-memory readback after 6,000 updates (trial seed 401)

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Training with memory rehearsal: new-image reconstruction after 1,000 updates (trial seed 402)

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Training with memory rehearsal: old-memory readback after 1,000 updates (trial seed 402)

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Training with memory rehearsal: new-image reconstruction after 2,000 updates (trial seed 402)

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Training with memory rehearsal: old-memory readback after 2,000 updates (trial seed 402)

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Training with memory rehearsal: new-image reconstruction after 3,000 updates (trial seed 402)

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Training with memory rehearsal: old-memory readback after 3,000 updates (trial seed 402)

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Training with memory rehearsal: new-image reconstruction after 4,000 updates (trial seed 402)

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Training with memory rehearsal: old-memory readback after 4,000 updates (trial seed 402)

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Training with memory rehearsal: new-image reconstruction after 5,000 updates (trial seed 402)

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Training with memory rehearsal: old-memory readback after 5,000 updates (trial seed 402)

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Training with memory rehearsal: new-image reconstruction after 6,000 updates (trial seed 402)

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Training with memory rehearsal: old-memory readback after 6,000 updates (trial seed 402)

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Training on new images only: new-image reconstruction after 1,000 updates (trial seed 402)

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Training on new images only: old-memory readback after 1,000 updates (trial seed 402)

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Training on new images only: new-image reconstruction after 2,000 updates (trial seed 402)

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Training on new images only: old-memory readback after 2,000 updates (trial seed 402)

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Training on new images only: new-image reconstruction after 3,000 updates (trial seed 402)

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Training on new images only: old-memory readback after 3,000 updates (trial seed 402)

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Training on new images only: new-image reconstruction after 4,000 updates (trial seed 402)

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Training on new images only: old-memory readback after 4,000 updates (trial seed 402)

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Training on new images only: new-image reconstruction after 5,000 updates (trial seed 402)

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Training on new images only: old-memory readback after 5,000 updates (trial seed 402)

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Training on new images only: new-image reconstruction after 6,000 updates (trial seed 402)

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Training on new images only: old-memory readback after 6,000 updates (trial seed 402)

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Training on new images only: new-image reconstruction after 1,000 updates (trial seed 403)

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Training on new images only: old-memory readback after 1,000 updates (trial seed 403)

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Training on new images only: new-image reconstruction after 2,000 updates (trial seed 403)

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Training on new images only: old-memory readback after 2,000 updates (trial seed 403)

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Training on new images only: new-image reconstruction after 3,000 updates (trial seed 403)

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Training on new images only: old-memory readback after 3,000 updates (trial seed 403)

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Training on new images only: new-image reconstruction after 4,000 updates (trial seed 403)

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Training on new images only: old-memory readback after 4,000 updates (trial seed 403)

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Training on new images only: new-image reconstruction after 5,000 updates (trial seed 403)

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Training on new images only: old-memory readback after 5,000 updates (trial seed 403)

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Training on new images only: new-image reconstruction after 6,000 updates (trial seed 403)

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Training on new images only: old-memory readback after 6,000 updates (trial seed 403)

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Training with memory rehearsal: new-image reconstruction after 1,000 updates (trial seed 403)

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Training with memory rehearsal: old-memory readback after 1,000 updates (trial seed 403)

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Training with memory rehearsal: new-image reconstruction after 2,000 updates (trial seed 403)

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Training with memory rehearsal: old-memory readback after 2,000 updates (trial seed 403)

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Training with memory rehearsal: new-image reconstruction after 3,000 updates (trial seed 403)

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Training with memory rehearsal: old-memory readback after 3,000 updates (trial seed 403)

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Training with memory rehearsal: new-image reconstruction after 4,000 updates (trial seed 403)

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Training with memory rehearsal: old-memory readback after 4,000 updates (trial seed 403)

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Training with memory rehearsal: new-image reconstruction after 5,000 updates (trial seed 403)

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Training with memory rehearsal: old-memory readback after 5,000 updates (trial seed 403)

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Training with memory rehearsal: new-image reconstruction after 6,000 updates (trial seed 403)

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Training with memory rehearsal: old-memory readback after 6,000 updates (trial seed 403)

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Limits and next question
Both arms refine the same joint native codec. Replay targets are archived old-decoder outputs, not original RGB truth, and preserving those outputs can preserve their errors. Retention training, development and final cohorts have separate roles; held-out retention is known acquired experience, while fresh final photographs measure new-input quality. Source-free cross-version readback explicitly retains acquisition and current decoder identities; it does not establish automatic codec compatibility. Geometry and spatial bindings are supplied sensory structure. Each complex128 region costs 256 KiB before overlap and other state; report bytes, exposure, replay overhead, latency and peak memory. Earlier lives retain their original models; no candidate is installed. Reconstruction, retention and measured retrieval remain separate from reading, learned meaning or general cognition.
Next question. Use fresh-percept quality, held-out retained readback, retrieval and resource costs to choose further perceptual learning or compatibility work before continuing-life adoption.
Inspect the evidence
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